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Author Topic: Need some help with local history  (Read 4826 times)

ubique

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Need some help with local history
« on: November 24, 2010, 10:17:14 PM »
Hey folks just wandering if anyone can help me with abit of local history im hitting a brick wall with

Now my home town is called Tewkesbury and we are taught in school as children that the town is named after the saxon hermit named Theoc who started the settlement in the 7th century and it was known as Theocsbury.

Now I cant find any information of when the name changed or why it even changed at all as many places retained AS names even after the conquest and even after the influences of middle and modern English?.

One thing that a freind mentioned  was the Tew in Tewkesbury when spoken sounds like Tiw who may or may not have been the tribal god of the Hwicce.I was unsure on this point to begin with as us locals pronounce Tewkesbury "Tchucksbury" while as people from elswhere seem to pronounce it "Tiwksbury".It seems unlikely to me that Tiw would be in the first place and less so as time went on as the settlement became more centred on the church and as time went on around the Abbey.

Any thaughts folks


Iohannes

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Re: Need some help with local history
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2010, 11:48:37 PM »
Hi Ubique!

I haven't made any research about the etymology of Tewkesbury - so I may be wrong - but I've got the feeling that this name isn't related to the god Tiw. I think it's simply the OE name (probably something like Þeoccesburg) gone through the evolution from the origins to ModE. Any irregularities are normal, since proper and place name seem to have gone through different evolutionary lines than ordinary words.

The -bury instead of -burgh/-borough is due to the frequent use of some of such place names, e g Tewkesbury, Canterbury, Shrewsbury etc, in the dative in expressions of place:

Þeoccesburg, Cantwaraburg, Scrobbesburg: on Þeoccesburig, Cantwaraburig, Scrobbesburig etc.

All the best

Iohannes

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Re: Need some help with local history
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2010, 08:09:39 AM »
ERRATA CORRIGE!!!

Sorry, I misspelt the dative forms: the -u- in -burg is palatalazed into -y-= -byrig, which is the source of the modern '-bury':

Þeoccesburg, Cantwaraburg, Scrobbesburg: on Þeoccesbyrig, Cantwarabyrig, Scrobbesbyrig etc.

Inattentive  :(, as usual  ;)!


ubique

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Re: Need some help with local history
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2010, 07:48:30 PM »
Thanks mate :D